".for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations." Isaiah 56:7 Need Prayer? Notice carefully: Our task as ambassadors is to bring good news to people. The church also launched a schoolFirst Baptist Academy. First Baptist Naples is, ethnically, a predominantly white church but we are not a racist church.. To that point, no group had met with Hayes or the committee privately, Dorrill continued, before adding to applause from those gathered at the Q&A session: "This will continue to be a transparent search. I'm New. This remains an elephant in the room at every worship service at that church. Wicker and his wife then returned a Chrysler minivan they had been given years before by a church member, and his church-leased vehicle was repossessed. On social media, too, some church members said race played no role in the failed vote. Jonathan Head November 26, 2011. The leadership spread negative comments about the pastor and accused him of acting in bad faith, according to sources close to the church. "A portion of the 19% that voted against Marcus Hayes did so based on racial prejudices," Executive Pastor John D. Edie wrote in an Oct. 31 letter to the Southern Baptist Convention. However, Mancini added that the situation at FBC Naples was not typical but did not want to comment on the unique circumstances at the church. Wicker, a former President of the Florida Baptist Convention and the SBC Pastors Conference, was such a high-profile leader and fundraiser for Baptist causes that his retirement was covered by Baptist Press, which reported the following on February 4th: In mid-January, Wicker, 68, I am sickened by the way he was treated and am grateful for this exposure. This is a clear case of men doing what they can to build their own kingdoms, not Jesus and to manipulate things into their own will being done, again not Jesus. Its devastating to the proclamation of the Gospel. Grocery. Similarly, an article in The Grio asked, Did a Florida church not hire a pastor because he was Black? And Christianity Today stated, Black Pastor Candidate Withdraws After Controversial Vote at SBC Megachurch.. Despite this track record, Wicker said he was shut out of the new pastor selection process. Click below to hear stories and testimonies of how the Lord has been working in and through our First Naples Family. Even Jesus said so much when he talked a man who started building a tower without counting the cost. Unfortunately, this did not meet the threshold. Click on the link below to see how you can use your gifts and talents for the Kingdom, from Naples to the nations! The shooting drew national headlines, outrage and questions about whether race factored into the officers decision to open fire. No, Again. Give Online. However, no evidence of racism has yet been produced. Why abide with a corrupt individual being in a leadership position at the church? Masters of Divinity in Christian Apologetics, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary I think this one would have died even if none of this soap opera garbage had taken place. I also find it interesting that Dorrills past financial misdeeds didnt seem to be a problem for the dissenters until the Hayes vetting process. We are simultaneously soldiers, commissioned to wage war for the defense and dissemination of the truth in the face of countless onslaughts against it. Greear, who had written a letter of recommendation for Marcus Hayes, called the open letter by FBC Naples leadership a bold, Gospel-faithful response of the leadership of FBC Naples. Greear added, Let us be united in lament that any vestige of this kind of sinful prejudice remains in our churches., Also, Danny Akin, president of SBC-affiliated Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (SEBTS), described the open letter as a strong and redemptive word from FBC Naples.. A representative from the Collier County Sheriffs Office also confirmed that FBC Naples contacted them on July 3 regarding a suspicious incident., Wickers daughter, Allyson Stephens, said that on September 13, two detectives visited her home and questioned her about the Voices of FBCN email. Takeaway: The problems here illustrate how important biblical models of church governance and judicial process are. And thats ok. God created me too. I have no hate here. Boy oh boy. Wicker said the church never responded to his letter. concerned with factors other than racism, such as Marcus Hayes "First Baptist Church Naples is doing excellent work through disaster relief," said Wayne Briant, southwest regional catalyst for the Florida Baptist Convention. "We know this because of the campaign that started just days before by a few disgruntled people in our church.". The Story Of First Baptist Church Naples is disturbing and alarming, but it is meant to be an inspiration. Just a couple of points for you to consider. Ill never bother with a Church again, because this is always going to be an issue. Hi, Carla. It is widely known that an 85% affirmative vote is unusually high. However, he stated, In the 22 years I was there (FBC Naples), I never heard a racist commentever. We have read so many of our traditions back into the New Testament, and tried to make them fit. Garippa, who was never part of Concerned Members of FBCN, declined to comment on why he left FBC Naples. But the uniform refusal to comment from the church leadership is suspicious. He hopes ADMISSIONS ATHLETICS BLOG CALENDAR CONTACT EMPLOYMENT FIRST NAPLES CHURCH GIVE . He nevertheless urged them to contend earnestly for the faith against all falsehood, while doing everything possible to deliver souls from destruction: snatching them out of the fire . An economy of power, people, and indeed money which is non-ecclesiastical but highly influential within evangelical churches. Blake Crawford and former deacon, Mike Dolan, said they were also suspended around that time. Upvote 1 Downvote. We must keep those objectives straight; we are not entitled to wage warfare against people or to enter into diplomatic relations with anti-Christian ideas. Go. This is a demonstration of holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power thereof. And Paul goes on to say So, Turn away from these, also. When HE transitioned the church from Elders to committees the ground work was laid for unbiblical polity. We are frankly disappointed that no resolution is making it impossible as at now for all the lovely folks within Naples to move forward. That's not what happened at First Baptist Church of Naples, Florida. Takeaway: The treatment of the retiring pastor at FBC Naples is eerily similar to the treatment of the retiring pastor at McLean Bible Church. Proverbs 18:17. Wicker, a former President of the Florida Baptist Convention and the SBC Pastors' Conference, was such a high-profile leader and fundraiser for Baptist causes that his retirement was covered by Baptist Press, which reported the following on February 4th: "We all realize that the year of 2019 has been very difficult in the life of our church," Dorrill said. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. Ricardo Barbosa December 25, 2014. Last fall, First Baptist Church (FBC) Naplesa prominent Southern Baptist megachurch in southwest Floridamade national headlines for rejecting an African American pastoral candidate because of some alleged racist members. Read the letter from the church to the Southern Baptist Convention, question and answer session with Hayes and his wife, Read the letter from First Baptist to church members regarding voting results, fatal shooting of a black security guard by a white police officer, Police release name of cop who killed black security guard who was corralling a gunman, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. It stinks to me of Greed. Freelance journalist Josh Shepherd writes on faith, culture, and public policy for several media outlets. The campaign, he said in an email to the Daily News, consisted of social media, texting, phone calls and a series of emails. Considering slave owners slept with slaves (even in my own ancestry), whites befriended their black help all while denying their equal rights it is possible to have friends and even spouses of other races and still have issues with bias and prejudice. All of the events need to be understood in the context of the overriding event and the church governance that permitted this to happen. He didnt mentioned anything in the question and answer sessions or his sermon that gave me any indication reconciling and unifying our church was even on his radar. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Publisher Log-in Im too far away to comment on the specific allegations, but whatever the truth of each, its pretty clear that youve got at least two strong factions in church leadership, and possibly also the church as a whole, which need to have a come to Jesus moment in terms of this is how you do, and this is how you do not do, ministry., The utter disrespect shown previous Pastor Wicker is atrocious and unchristian to say the least. Roku Live Streaming, Copyright 2023 ITP Productions, Inc. dba ChristianWorldMedia.com, All Rights Reserved, Welcome to First Naples! By circumventing the clear teachings of Matthew 18:15-17 regarding church discipline, this process showcases glaring problems with approaches to discipline that rely entirely on church oligarchies. Our constitution and bylaws stated that a Senior Pastor must be affirmed by at least an 85% or higher vote. Ungodly treatment of a Godly man and his entire family, not to mention those whose leadership and dedication to the Lord was well-known and long-standing. Wicker spent 27 years as pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples. To make matters worse, FBC Naples is implementing church discipline procedures which are in direct violation to those set forth by Jesus in Matthew 18. I know that can seem like a simple concept, but it seems to be forgotten when the well a black person disagrees with it! argument is used. The GRAND OLD STANDARD, the Baptist Faith and the Message, swallowed up by an effective indoctrination of the Faithful by the Left. That is a perfect summary of every Christians duty in the war for the truth. The so-called dissenters had issues with what the church was doing WELL BEFORE Marcus Hayes arrived. Check the upcoming First Baptist Church - Naples schedule for concerts, shows, and events in 2023-2024 to find the best tickets for all events at First Baptist Church - Naples. And they said, Surely, you will not die. The actions described in this article, which by the way are just the tip of the iceberg, were unloving, ungodly, and unbecoming of pastors charged with shepherding Gods flock. Thats why its so harmful to the church; its born of and encourages the myopic tendencies of American evangelicalism. @DooWopCokeFan Please try to understand something: NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE THINK ALIKE. At the time, Wicker seemed to be well-respected by his church and denomination. Enough racists voted against the pastor. I actually want you to see me as a black woman, because that has shaped my experiences in life how people have reacted to me, treated me, etc. He friended, then de-friended and blocked my wife on social media. God has to be deeply saddened by this, knowing that so much more could be done. Instead, Wicker was quickly forced out. "It had to do with biblical principals that many questioned," she wrote. But we are not merely ambassadors. action has been taken to enact church discipline on the dissenters because of This group was engaged in an email campaign to inform church members about various concerns with Marcus Hayes. to be clear. Specialties: First Baptist Church Naples is a church family that is unified on several basic theological understandings, which are based in our understanding of God's Word. It is time for the SBC to do what they should have done first, before concluding who was right: Shine the light, Brothers, shine the light in here. Hi. Multiple sources claiming to be from FBC Naples have reached out to Pulpit & Pen and Reformation Charlotte and we are currently assessing the accounts of these individual. Yet Caudill said that when he spoke up in meetings, the 79-year-old deacon was deemed divisive.. I do not intend to allow blackmail to prevail at this point and would hope that you would support me. I just wish so many from my former church would open their eyes and see whats going on. No church creed has ever taught the nonsense that had become so pervasive in evangelicalism. To find sermons, announcements, and other resources, click on the link below. But key conferences and key organizations had a vested interest in sidestepping orthodoxy and demonizing any who pointed that out. Grateful that FBCN is moving toward amputating the racists, tweeted Rev. The turmoil at FBC Naples began about a year ago, when longtime Senior Pastor Hayes Wicker announced to the church that he was stepping down to make way for younger fresher leadership.. The removal of the original pastor and his ENTIRE family, the threats to members from a law firm, and the mere fact that they were not abiding by their own by-laws are just a few of the issues going on. Yet Easter services would be the last time Wicker would preach at FBC Naples. Just like there are women who are pro-Gloria Steinem feminists, and there are women who are not fans of Gloria, black people are capable of holding differing opinions too. Dorrill also serves on FBC Naples finance committee. Wicker said several weeks later, the church emailed him, stating that Wicker had facilitated and cooperated with a rival faction in the church, which voided his exit agreement. On Easter weekend, Wicker said he received a text message that several chairmen wanted to meet with him about church unrest. Wicker said he tried to ignore it. I would know. It isnt white people who have turned on the evil and hate. Looking for past sermons? 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