* what causes them to reverse course between large and smaller paths continually? By 1990, two telescopes had been build on near by mountains and a third, to be built on Mount Graham, was being strongly challenged for environmental reasons by the newly founded Mount Graham Coalition group. Telescope: (Copyright Fair Use Permitted) https://aplanetruth.info/2015/03/31/20-why-is-the-vatican-the-largest-and-longest-owners-of-telescop… [], [] Innards of the the Vaticans L.U.C.I.F.E.R. Wouldnt it be mind blowing to find out that the character Lucifer wasnt hasatan or the devil? Our brothers originally believed and taught that Isa 14:12 was an address to hasatan, in ignorance; however, upon knowledge of the truth we immediately adjusted. "When the white people, the non-Indians, invaded, they assumed the 'moral authority' versus the 'treacherous savage Apaches,'" Riley said. When I also read, Jesuit Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, indicated he could not find an authentic Apache who thought the mountain was sacred. A key to understanding how long the myth of a global heliocentric, agnostic, universe has been perpetuated on all is to understand how long and deep the Vatican has been involved with observing the heavens all the way back to Copernicus, (who himself became a catholic priest in the last years of his life and studied cannon law). Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario By Greg Szymanski, JD April 23, 2010 The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced today it named its newest high-powered telescopic instrument 'Lucifer'. Tucson. 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Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario By Greg Szymanski, JD April 23, 2010 The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced today it named its newest high-powered telescopic instrument 'Lucifer'. Hence, in 1987 the Vatican Observatory Foundation was established. As of 1965 the Mount Graham Red Squirrel was believed to have been extinct. They were set in motion by a creator. Through owning all of the information coming from the heavens, along with NASA, they been able to steer and control the narratives that we all learn about what is, and has been going on in our universe. Graham in southeastern Arizona. Again, the creator. Graham complex came to be and examine some of the Vatican's contributions. Now, at a three-day meeting beginning Wednesday (Nov. 30), Apache Stronghold is hoping to unite its cause with other similar Native American groups that are working to preserve land they deem sacred. The sun and moon are suspended by magnetism and they were originally created and set in motion as part of a big clock-like feature by a creator, just as many ancient cultures and religious tenants profess. Device as a lens, but it is actually an infrared, binocular telescope. L.U.C.I.F.E.R., which stands for Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research, is a chilled instrument attached to a telescope in Arizona. Downes, Nathaniel. And why is the Vatican interested and want to invest in something like this? I always thought that was just a tad weird, [] wolves calculate that one! In reaction to the Director of the Vatican Observatorys claim members of the San Carlos Apache residing in the area surrounding Mount Graham stated that, the construction of the telescope constituted a profound disrespect for a cherished feature of their original homeland and a violation of traditional religious beliefs., (Telescope construction on the summit of Mount Graham, 1992. This was followed by the build out of book publishing directed by the Vatican. LOL. The mountain is one of several which mark the boundaries of their sacred space. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. In addition there is a unique meteorite collection from which a knowledge of the early history of the solar system is being derived. Now do you see whythe Pope who has been caught worshiping Satanhasa telescope named Lucifer pointing towards that Nebula? Reach Krolat
[email protected] or at 602-444-8490. At 10,720 feet above sea level, it dominates the otherwise flat landscape in southeastern Arizonas Gila River Valley. Mount Graham is one of the four sacred mountains of the Apache people. The mission of VATT is displayed prominently outside the entrance in Latin and in English indoors. The Annual Report is distributed to more than 400 institutes around the world. VATT is part of the Mount Graham International Observatory situated on Mount Graham in southeast Arizona, and is operated by the Vatican Observatory, one of the oldest astronomical research institutions in the world, in partnership with The University of Arizona. The observatory ended up in court and the opponents lost. The Vatican also owns most of the early books of antiquity on astronomy as well as owning the most patents on celestial observatories. Angelo Secchi, at the Roman College. The University of Arizona (UA) selected Mount Graham as their choice location for a seven-telescope observatory project in the 1980s. Mount Graham is known to the San Carlos Apache as Dzil ncha si an. News accounts at the time reported that Apache tribal leaders said they were given insufficient notification of the project. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Fifteen years later, after incursions by settlers on what the Apaches knew were their own lands by treaty, they fought back. The Vatican Observatory shares space (no pun intended) with other organizations and groups. "This is a story of light pollution and how it persecutes poor astronomers." In the 1930s, Pope Pius XI relocated the Observatory to . The theory that the character Lucifer is Hasatan has been a popular one in Christianity dating as far back as the 4th century. The central sacred importance of Mount Graham has been known to the Mount Graham astronomers since 1968, long before the opening of the Vatican's telescope in 1993. And that the Vatican's telescope is named the VATT. From a hillside behind St. Peters Basilica, Vatican astronomers studied the heavens, taking part in an international program to map the whole sky. LUCIFER Built On Sacred Indian Burial Grounds. almost. "There are so many commodities and useful resources in these lands. Father Coyne stated that to convince him that the mountain was sacred he would need to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-American anthropologists. Due observatories prolonged struggle to obtain a new permit, and the rise in support from governmental groups, environmental groups, and the Apache people themselves this may be one struggle for sacred land that is not lost. So God created man ( not aliens) man created the telescope and the Vatican created the laws to enslave man. The church held most knowledge in books which had laboriously been handwritten by priests until then. []. To many, religious and otherwise, the question of who exactly Lucifer is an easy one to answer. Prior to the appeal, congress had passed an act that exemplified the telescope project from the National Environmental Policy Act and the Endangered Species Act, thus resulting in the failure to immediately and permanently halt the telescope project. The Apache name for Mount Graham is Dzil Nchaa Si An. What is to become of these state treasures is anyone's guess. The Vatican Observatory donated a radio telescope and loans several exhibits to the park, including an astrolabe made in 1608 and the Mertz Telescope, constructed in 1870 in Morocco. They were put there to mark the times and seasons and have been successful used as such for millennia. Why, when it took until 1992 for the Vatican to pardon Galileo? Vatican builds a giant telescope and names it ''LUCIFER'' The Vatican, the Jesuits and the University of Arizona, unveiled a new telescope centered upon Apache sacred ground, on Mount Graham, in Arizona. At nearly the same exact time, in 1609, Galileo Galilei built his first telescope by learning how to grind his own glass to make his star viewer. Encircled by a 2-mile border with Italy, Vatican City is an independent city-state that covers just over 100 acres . Lucifer is not hasatan, nor is it a proper name, but an honorific title given to the King of Babel meaning morning. Placing unauthorized or unwelcomed whatever on Indian sacred ground, like this telescope, or even taking any sort of sacred symbols, down to the rocks and dirt, without permission or a blessing to do so, could be a nightmare, a real life story for a Dan Brown novel and may add to the growing issues facing the Catholic Church. Interestingly, theres a documentary about Chernobyl nuclear disaster and the prophecy. Same ash been mentioned in Morals and Dogma: LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Only a few years later, scientist began to see the squirrel reappear at higher altitudes on Mount Graham. It has been weeks since I asked for what should be simple proof, since the majority of the face of this earth is water. Web. National Optical Astronomy Observatory. Sonoita. We have been fighting or trying to make the people understand that we feel that anything that'splaced on the ground or anything that puts out radiation or any kind of electrical equipment destroys our way of praying.. To name it Lucifer and then place it on sacred Apache Indian ground? The 500 year Great Lie can easily be understood in that the Vatican, the Royal Society of London and Nazi German run NASA have controlled all information from space about our place in the Universe and all stories related up until this very day. The how is best answered by the one that designed the whole mechanism and set them on a path. Mount Graham, also known as Dzil Nchaa Si An, rises majestically from the Sonoran Desert in northwestern Arizona. It is apart of the Vatican Observatory, which is one of the oldest astronomical establishments. This ironic conflict pits the Vatican against Apache spiritual leaders, and astronomers against biologists. Debra Krol reports on Indigenous communities at the confluence of climate, culture and commerce in Arizona and the Intermountain West. The Vatican, which has invested in the project, challenged the sacredness of the mountain based on the lack of structures or objects. [] sacred sites (in the U.S.) have been used for telescopes and observatories, one of which is Mount Graham (guaranteed not the Apache name for that peak: actually it is called Dzil ncha si []. 3.) You CANNOT find convex water. The Vatican Observatory shares space (no pun intended) with other organizations and groups. The Catholic Encyclopedia, claims it to have a deeper significance; hence this permits them to apply it to hasatan, even though it contradicts the context of the passage. </p> <p>To the Apache the ecology of the area is what makes the land sacred and it is not related to the western idea of a physical shrine. To make people believe its BAD and evil, while its isnt. 03 Nov. 2012. Quote: Even with the claimed ownership of the land and the relocation of many Apache indians, the sacred mountain remained protected by the public park service. Research results are published in international journals. Then stupidity must be on the rise since more and more people are discovering the globe theory a massive lie. The Forest Service has acknowledged that the mountain is a Traditional Cultural Property to Western Apache people and has taken steps to consult with traditional Apache about the sacred nature of the mountain and how to protect it. Welch described settler sentiment at the time: "This is out of control," they would say. Can anybody say tradition? Coverage of Indigenous issues at the intersection of climate, culture and commerce is supported by the Catena Foundation and the Water Funder Initiative. But the new residents of the Arizona territory called foul. Lucifer is part of the Large Binocular Telescope, which happens to be right next to the Vatican Observatory on Mt. 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