2. 1. In addition to Powers Gold label, a 12-year-old premium blend, and several single pot still whiskeys have been released under the Powers banner in recent years: In the 2012 edition of the Whisky Bible, whiskey writer Jim Murray named Power's John's Lane Release Irish Whiskey of the Year and described it as "certainly one of the top five world whiskies of the year". Nuts. The worst mistake I made was ordering a Bass Ale in PJ Horgans on Queens Blvd. I am pretty sure that if you visited the Guinness brewery in Dublin your guide would not have mentioned the fact about the companys discrimination against Catholics, let alone advise on boycotting it. The new bottling hall is also taking shape even though itll be a while before the on site whiskey will be bottled. The truth is that great whiskey is produced in both the north and south of Ireland. Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean) | When I lived in Providence, there was a lot of Powers drinking going on. I noticed a little uncertainty about spelling in the story. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. Powers is for shooting, some of the swill mentioned here is OK for mixing and when I want a little variety, I go for a double Connemara 12 never get tired of the peated smoothness and wonderful finish. Any particular reason why in 1998-1999 Bushmills would have distilled of at least bottle up for Jameson ????? Im an American Catholic raised in the bible belt, West Virginia to be exact. While John Jameson was most likely a Protestant, his distillery in Dublin represented the Free State mentality and did not suffer from bigoted hiring practices. With regard to Powers Gold Label: I bought a bottle last week after reading about how decent a drink it was. Im trying one at a time to see what I prefer. We dont live in the dark ages anymore, though clearly prejudice and ignorance persist. This must be one of the most pointless debates I have seen in a long time. I serve it in Texas to my St. Patricks day guests and several times a year otherwise. I like it very much and find it very smoothalmost like a scotch. Its summer here in Oregon, which means barbecues, camping trips and river floats are on the agenda for the next few months. Though Jameson is currently distilled in lovely Cork, it was actually founded and first distilled in Dublin. Connemara Cask Strength is a real treat, and Greenore Single Grain is likewise enjoyable. Im not sure that it says anything more than that it isnt a strictly American argument. Previous Post Elements Eight Rum Most protestant in my area have a real problem with Catholics. Every time you raise a glass of Bushmills you are in essence raising a glass to an Irishman losing his land (and in some cases his life) to British rule!! Hi and i take my hat off to Rob Mchardy answer 34..more people should be like you and the world would be a nicer place,anyway there is only one kind of whisky,the answer is in the spelling. so stop bringing religion into alcoholdrink what you like and leave the bigotry at the doorif people spent a few hours getting to know each other over a drink we wouldnt have half the discrimination we have today. Whiskey takes no sides and is drank by all Catholic, Protestant, Hebrew, Atheist, etc. Cant believe this discussion thread is still going on since 2009! Fact: the worst atrocities in the Irish struggle for freedom were perpetrated by the Irish on each other and were not likely fueled by religious affiliation but the politics of the time. However, its all moot now as the French reap the profits in the end , Jameson, Bushmills, Tullemore, Red Breast, Powers. Anyway, both of your sources are wrong, but at least your father got the order right. Entries are still open for the 2023 San Fr, This weekend, we hiked to the site of a natural ca, Valentines Day. As of late, its been my favorite it has rich barley notes that leave my palate craving more. DONT EVER ask an Irish person , north or south if they are catholic or protestant because they will look at you with contempt. Im not sure if this is truth or myth but I cannot drink Bushmills due to there even being a chance of truth in that because of the awful stories I heard about those F&[emailprotected]$&$ convicts (the black and tans) the Brits let loose on the people of Ireland. And as our clan motto states commit thy work to god. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. @Allen: I think it show more the bigoted nature of your tour guide than it does Bushmills. and my green on July 12th. Powers' Morte d'Urban, for example, the novel may strike you as the slightly humorous failures of an all-too worldly priest. Oh, by the way, John Jameson was a protestant Scottish planter in Ireland, so shouldnt you be boycotting his whiskey also? I said, so youre Protestant? In some ways Im like woof, Thank you, @craftspiritsus for inviting me to give, CALLING ALL NACHOS AND WINGS LOVERS (okay and foot, Menu and blog update! Makes me want to get on a plane to Dublin immediately., Its like loving the smell of a sharpie or gasoline, in small way Kelsey Crenshaw. Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy . As a bartender years ago in Chicago I was told When stocking your liquor on the back of the bar. Good evening All, [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. I just brought some Tyrconnell 10-year port cask aged home from duty free it is delicious. Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. I think Paddys may be even rarer in the US than Powers. I have even concocted a drink for St. Patricks day,. However, this is just a rumor, but I did hear it from a pretty reliable source in the industry back in Ireland. I am definitively a black bush person but I was mentioning that while spending a lot of time in Ireland back in 1998, I saw, while visiting the Bushmills distillery, cartons of Jameson bottles on the bottling chain. Understanding the church. Privacy Policy | Bourbon distillers only use barrels once, as the liquor gets its distinct flavor and color from the oak. Went on the Bushmills tour in November 2015. So, which Irish whiskey is Catholic? I must say I enjoyed reading this thread, and I had no intention of posting until I reached #58. @Rob: my scotch comment was tongue-in-cheek. During this period, when the Dublin whiskey distilleries were amongst the largest in the world, the family-run firms of John Power, along with John Jameson, William Jameson, and George Roe, (collectively known as the "Big Four") came to dominate the Irish distilling landscape, introducing several innovations. Some, like Jameson, are owned by Catholic companies. It is either good or it is not. Paid 10 Euro for a shot of it in Dublin, and well worth the price. Catholics represented the unstable Republican persona and therefore the company hired few people from the catholic areas. Not sure this is the right spot, but an Irish colleague and I, had this debate last week around Bushmills v Jameson in an Irish pub, here in New York. Why not stop purchasing rum to protest Spanish aggression while you are at it. I am not surprised that this thread is 6 years old and still going strong. Well, being of Scots-descent, Ill take one of each. I was born in buncrana moved to Derry then to Belfast and am now living in the uk Im Catholic and I must say I prefer Bushmills to Jamesons although Ive been a life Long fan of Jamesons it doesnt matter whether your Hun or teag drink what you like dont bring sectarianism into it itll spoil the taste. Cant wait to find out. Being good to people is the very best thing you can do for yourself. However, some of the buildings have been incorporated into the National College of Art and Design, and are now protected structures. say more. Patrick Irish whiskey tends to be a lighter style of whiskey than Scotch or American whiskies, but that doesnt mean its necessarily lower in quality. I am for Bushmills especially sprinkled over banana bread. Great smooth flavor and a soft long finish. [11], In 1961, a Coffey still was installed in John's Lane Distillery, allowing the production of vodka and gin, in addition to the testing of grain whiskey for use in blended whiskey. Whiskey hasnt got a religion. So bottoms up. Anyone try Kilbeggan Irish Whiskey? Powers Gold Label is the best-selling Irish whiskey in its native Ireland. Whoever owns Paddys also owns one of these bigger brands and wont export to the US because they know they would cannibalize their own market share. The northern Protestant states, angered by the violation of their rights to choose granted in the Peace of Augsburg, banded together to form the Protestant Union. Still enjoy the Black Bush and the Bushmills 16yr. Click here to learn how to make this and other drinks for a slushie machine! The cheap Evan Williams Black Label at half the price (in the USA)has more taste and more of a kick. However, the only brand of Irish I ever saw in the Balkans was Tullamore Dew. [9] They were the first Dublin distillery to do so, and one of the first in the world. And I was not drunk !!! It is all quite harmonious between the distilleries. Catholics and Protestants have a different view on the nature of the church. The Catholic Whiskey in Dublin was John Powers. I was aware of the obvious problem with the claim that Bushmills is 'protestant whisky' but this gives a great insight. Funny thing is, Jeffrey, that at the end of your debunking of the myth, you subtly reassert its validity in rightly noting that Bushmills is owned by Diageo, a company based in a largely Protestant country, while Jameson is owned by Pernod-Ricard, which is based in a predominantly Catholic country. TRIPLE SEC, 2 shots of BUSHMILLS, Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. The episodes of violence associated with both Protestant and Catholic troops in the . The big difference between the two whiskies has nothing to do with religion, which is silly and, in some respects, rather ignorant. Seriously (though I actually was), I very much appreciated the original article, as I had had often wondered about that Jamesons = Catholic; Bushmills = Protestant thing. We intend to vigorously defend our position. Ive used Irish Whiskey in Old Fashions and Sours before with tasty results. Just as in an area which is largely Catholic you would expect most employees to be Catholic. Support the old sod. Soon after, in a bold move, Irish Distillers decided to close all of their existing distilleries, and to consolidate production at a new purpose-built facility in Midleton (the New Midleton Distillery) alongside their existing Old Midleton Distillery. The truth of the matter is, the age-old faux-pas of ordering Bushmills for fear of supporting English aggression and offending the Republic of Ireland is about as Irish as corned beef which is to say, not very Irish at all but rather Irish-American (Sorry, kids, corned beef is a Jewish invention). I could be fairly sure the master distiller was hired because he was good at distilling whiskey and not because they needed to hire a Catholic. He said, no, Im Catholic, but I was born and raised in the town of Bushmills! I come from the border and powers was the biggest seller by ten to one over any other whiskey,jemmy was next ,bush mills was not even on the optics and it was all about their hiring practices of workers and not the religion of their owners, @jen I prefer the taste of Bushmills as its smoother where Jameson is a sharper taste. Never tried Redbreast for some reason. Drink is one thing that unites Ireland it is shocking to see that some, primarily in the US, try to politicise it. Bad Catholic that I am, I always drank Bushmills over Jameson. It has shaped Ireland's agriculture, literature, song and now, more than ever - our economy.. As Jameson only uses the bourbon barrels once, the color and flavor is more reminiscent of American bourbon. Tullamore Dew, rendered in most branding as Tullamore D.E.W. is that a catholic thing? There was a big banner from the 80s in one of our meeting rooms that read boycott bushmills they discriminate because they were from the north they didnt use to hire catholic workers. It is a fact that Bushmills is distilled in Northern Ireland, and Jameson hails from County Cork in the Republic. No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys?. Wow, not one mention of Tullamore Dew. This is wayyyy late, and I apologize, but the record needed to be set straight. While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. Yep, this goes back to when Bushmills was still part of IDL (Irish Distillers Limited) and owned by Pernod. My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. I find Jameson to be a bit too sweet, I guess. Also how does Navan end up in a Heineken? A Mac computer geek thats too young to retire and too old for male prostitution. Ive been to the area that Bush Mills in manufactured and its total UFV territory. Although, when faced with only Jameson and Bushmills, I will usually go for the Bushmills. Those of us that still drink enjoy guinness as our beer [4] At the time of his visit, the distillery was home to five pot stills, two of which with capacities of 25,000 gallons, were amongst the largest ever built. , Do note that the greatest tv show of all time, The Wire, always showed the Baltimore cops ordering Jameson in the bars, and the hero, McNulty, becomes indignant when only Bushmills is available at a partys open bar ( I guess most of the cops were Irish Catholic ), so traditions prevailed. as the visit was ending up with only 3 tiny plastic glasses half full. And we should all be thankful for this. post number 66). Who really cares. If you dont beleive in god the whole situation would appear ridiculous. 1 line was bottling Bushmills. Drink which ever you palette desires!! When asked to identify "the term commonly used to refer to the historical period in which Protestants broke away from the Catholic Church," two-thirds of the general public (65%) correctly chose the Reformation. If it was a genuine issue then bars wouldnt serve both. Jamesons one-time MD (CEO in the USA) was Andrew Jameson. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. As a proud Corkonian, I feel the need to set the record straight. Oh and Bushmills was NOT licensed to distill in 1608Thats marketing Bullshit. Ive enjoyed most Irish whiskey Ive sampled, including Powers, Tully, and Bushmills. So, I figured then maybe I was Protestant Irish? This works in the same way that Protestants love their Guinness just as much as Roman Catholics in fact, I know a lot of Catholics who never drink the stuff. In a TALL glass.one shot of The new Tullamore Dew distillery is up and running the past 2 years and back in Tullamore town. My grandmother preferred Bushmills (on ice, with a large splash of water). The root of this myth lies in the fact that Bushmills is located in the predominately Protestant and still British Northern Ireland. Plus, many of the whiskies can be sipped neat or on the rocks. Tullamore Dew, Powers, Paddy, Midleton Very Rare, Green Spot, and . Terrific reading. I grew up in a so-called Protestant area in west County Down where nobody really cares what you are. However, ownership remained in the family until 1966, and several descendants of his sisters remained at work with the company until recent times. Stick to the booze recommendations, the mixed drink recipes, and the things you have first-hand experience with. The version that Im familiar with is, of course Jamison is Catholic and Bushmills is Protestant. As an irish american raised in an irish roman catholic family I can say this: The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. Is Misty protestant? ! Idiot!! Counter-Reformation, also called Catholic Reformation or Catholic Revival, in the history of Christianity, the Roman Catholic efforts directed in the 16th and early 17th centuries both against the Protestant Reformation and toward internal renewal. Still love it. About 5 or 6 years ago they flooeded Irish bars with it just before St. Paddys Day,almost forcing bars to sell off a lot of free stock they received. I drink and enjoy both, but based on my experience(s) in Ireland lets just say watching you order a Bushmills in Dublin would be very entertaining. As long as its no longer going on in the company today then enjoy. The 1608 license is not marketing shite, but did refer to the area of the town of Bushmills. Whereas Bushmills is seen (by some) as British because it is located in Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK)and there is a political bias against it from some quarters. [8] In addition, three of the distillery's pot stills were saved and now located in the college's Red Square.[8]. I like Jamesons.andI like BushmillsandI like Tullamore Dew.and I dont care if theyre made by Indonesian monks that hate my mothertheyre just tasty. But there was a bar that had a shot of Powers and a Guinness for $7, so as you can guess I ended up drinking quite a bit of it. There are some amazing ones, FYI, I will leave it at that. This is an interesting thread and I have a few more now to try. Im sorry but if not drinking a brand of whiskey for some very spurious political reason, and claiming drinking Bushmills somehow condones an Irishman losing his land seems pretty idiotic to me. Im Irish American and I volunteered for both Sinn Fin and Irish Northern aide. One more thing Since Pernod Ricard shut down the grain stills at the old Bushmills distillery, all of the grain whiskey in Bushmills is from Middleton! Fathers side Ulster.ancestors to America ca 1719. Whiskey has no religion. Tullamore Dew is aged in ex-bourbon and ex-sherry cask type, whereas Jameson is aged in oak barrels. Hats off to all the others. Bushmills released a statement saying:Its just one of the outrageous statements put about in an attempt to blacken our name. Nose Heres the real question why does everyone insist on handing us shots of jameson late night in colorado? I answered, Episcopalian because we think of ourselves as both and neither. 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