Do you think an LE source might be talking to one of them or perhaps someone who knows one of them? I dont know if they were part of the search parties. Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. I didnt mean to imply that, sorry. I actually looked into the possibility that DP could be covering for someone. We park right at the front door. The. R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their no rumors or speculation rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. I just donated via PayPal. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. 2) There was a shot that was deliberately fired into the creek in an attempt to scare Libby, whom was attempting to evade Mr. I'm a little different in my approach here as I do want people to break my theories down but I not everyone is like that. to find the killer or team of killers. Informacin detallada del sitio web y la empresa: ydelecnormandie.com, +33974562807 Installation et rnovation de rseau lectrique Pont-Audemerr, Lisieux, Le Havre-lectricit btiment,Installation lectrique | SARL YD ELEC NORMANDIE I don't think it was directly addressed in the episodes, but are you able to speculate on what degree of premeditation (if any) would your theory would have required on the part of your suspect? cherrygemgem 1 yr. ago. We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is catching fire! However, some people are stupid enough to sue even when they are guilty. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? Clown. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. Im curious if Mr X knew KAK or his father? Have you wrote about what the investigators talked to RL about? We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. Apparently he planned this abduction to occur at precisely this time, which is shocking. Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. Would you be able to send me any sort of timeline map to help me with my own investigation? YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . That mod who runs the Libby/Abby Subreddit where LK hosted his Q&A and whom he specifically references (and per himself has given her proof of his real identity) seems to be indicating that LK is not who he claims to be. John Kelly has some good information. There is a rumor of a falling out between the two men at some time before the crime. Was he set up to take the fall? These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. This case ranks with WM3 to me. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. This what first aroused LE suspicions of Mr. X. You might consider joining us in our private group. He had his keys with him, so why didnt he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldnt because he had lost his keys? A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. Delphi Girls Murdered Bail hearing set for suspect in Delphi murders Richard Allen's bail hearing has been set for Thursday, June 15 at 8:30 a.m. in Carroll County. And possibly even other rapes and homicides. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? @Luciana S- Thats why he has those Packers boots on. Five years after the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German, the people of Delphi remain hopeful as the investigation for the killer continues. The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logans land. These are real people stop meddling and just read. Theres no woman among them. Can we prove it? I have one more message for you. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. AP The trial for the suspect accused of murdering two girls in Delphi,. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. 11 https://beyondhighbrow.com/2021/04/04/delphi-murders-update-april-4-2021/. Good time to put up road blocks and spike strips. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. And Im sure that the Delphi police could say the same thing. @lemon @scarlet - I could not agree more. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. FSG is at the trails every day. You mentioned that the police are allowed to lie to the public. However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. Tough shit. I found it to be a really compelling theory, and as captain mentioned in the pod, the missing link with all the other "good fit" POIs that have been discussed is they cannot be placed at the scene. What do people think he was saying that "fooled" police? One person wins and everyone else loses. I almost feel as though LE doesnt want to solve this crime, and that scares me. We are not sure of Mr. Xs current job, but we think he might be selling wooden signs that he makes by himself and sells. Not sure of the significance here. A lot of my comments have been deleted, not at my discretion. Its certainly possible that she may well have not recognized Mr. X, even though he was apparently a neighbor. She described his eyes as dark and evil. I may have questions, but that would be the extent.. Thanks Dee. What it does do, however, is make LE appear to be slightly less incompetent for calling off that search if Abby and Libby were confirmed to have been deceased before the search even started. Anyway, where you at with this case now? And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. 4-lane highway. When the Col. and Cpt did their very first episode back at the start the glaring fact shared was that the county has one of the highest sexual offender rates per capita in all of the US of A. Feb. 13, 2017 Abby and Libby are dropped off at the Monon High Bridge Trail and are not there when family comes to pick them up. There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. who put himself at the crime scene at 3pm. Entertaining and a breath of fresh air. Hes also thoroughly lawyered up, and hes not saying a word. Yes, that is part of Leigh Kerrs testimony. They werent that close. You made a mistake my friend. No one knows if they talked to Ron about Mr. X. I doubt it because Ron keeps saying the killer is this Garrett Kirts, and its not him. In 2004, police on Big Pine Key responded to a gruesome scene. Do you think the POI drove to the Mears lot immediately after the crime or left the area? I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. Curious after listening to the down the hill podcast. You dont need a degree, credential, and a license to do this job, you know. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. Im not sure if pregnancy can be confirmed via autopsy before 6 weeks. Train tracks and you guessed it, more fields, parallel to the gas station. Also, I was interested in whether you may be able to cover Harmony Montgomerys case? I tend to think its a doll. Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. I believe Mr. X is the guy. Also we have excellent sources inside the police with officers who are very close to the investigation. Thank you so much for this excellent comment, Jennifer! Is he somebody big in law enforcement? Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. But no, that was not the case. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. . Can you spell out the name? Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors - mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. Good question and we have no answer to it. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. Is that also speculation? Number 5 was told to JM, an excellent local sleuth, and then to us by an Indiana detective who works in Narcotics based on crime scene photos he had seen. Almost zero. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files? It was all over by 3:30 PM. I believe that came from the leaked DE texts, and I would really like to know if that has ever been confirmed by anyone in LE. Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. Would you be able to send me any sort of timeline map to help me with my own investigation? Skip and I will discuss where the second sketch may have come from. I would like to know if he has any motorcycle club affiliation, especially regarding a certain outfit with a reputation to be feared around that area? I think that the killer was very familiar with someone in the family somewhere. So far, Indiana State Police has not publicly connected Kline with the girls deaths, but investigators have talked about the Delphi case in both of their news releases about Kline and the social media account. We doubt if she did contact his wife. So it looks like Mr. X is using to cutting up dead and possibly living animals with large knives. Not sure if its Tennessee, or Texas? Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. Delphi murders cops slammed for keeping people 'in the dark' STAR LIVES ON Ray Liotta's daughter gives heartbreaking tribute to late dad at Walk of Fame Police still ask anyone with information about the case to submit a tip at [email protected] or 765-822-3535. Read free previews and reviews from booklovers. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. They believe that when fresh LE eyes looked at the case in 2018 (I think they said GBI) this is what shifted the investigation to look back at him and precipitated the 2019 press conference where LE corrected paths, clarified the correct sketch, and spoke directly to BG/the killer. We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is . However, some people are stupid enough to sue even when they are guilty. Besides, hes the wrong age, 27-28. You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? I do not know why RRB is? Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9738939/Lori-Vallow-charged-conspiracy-commit-murder-death-fourth-husband-Arizona.html?fbclid=IwAR2haqAKhF0vqWzP2aKiNyDy14kIG7SCjPxtWVXndA3Dt49wvD5xXRByYT8. With Skip and Faceman's theory, this is starting to make sense. I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. This has helped me a lot. Underwear, possible two pairs, was found in the river. His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. Skip provides a notable suspect at the scene with a shady storyline, but we still are left in the dark about motive. Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. I see on Reddit that they mention you in a negative way, but dont listen to those people! We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. Can not figure out what P stands for. @Skip, I love you and the information youre releasing! Kinda seems like New Cricket is fake DP, but who knows if he's also Skip and Jersey. Highly functioning drunk; its the only way he can appear normal. Pregnancies are also risky for 13 and 14 year old girls. Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. The 10-mile Delphi Historic Trails system is comprised of eight miles of urban "street" trails. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. Then email me and and I will give you the link and password and I will also let you into the new forum where you can set up your own name and password. No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. This is all so immature of everyone. I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? Correct. Maybe on a dark spiritual level, yes, but I think the Delphi killer has nothing to do with the other murders now. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. Allen, 50, has been. This GPS device showed that his phone had been at the CPS building from 12-5 on the day of the murders. Skip, thanks for responding to my question. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. The Delphi Murders turned the small town of Delphi, Indiana from a place no one has heard about, to the place of one of the nation's most heinous, unsolved murders.. Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13 . Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Tragedy struck the small town of Delphi, Indiana on , when Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were murdered on a hiking trail. You dont have to join. The accusation is that she knows something or knows way too much and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. Deer kits have five knives, so we assume this one does too. By the way, whats a legitimate journalist? Whats a illegitimate journalist? Theres no such thing as either. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. So who is Mr. X? Abby and Libby were murdered after going for a hike near an old bridge in February 2017. I also have to disagree with you about your criticism of the police for calling off the search at 3 AM. Via LE Source A, LE has a main suspect in the Delphi Murders, Mr. X, and the case is focused on him. I sorta did wonder where he was from 12 to 430ish. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. We reported them one year before it came out in the media that they were all true. Only thing I can come up with if we go with the rumors is that he draped them with the sheet that had the smiley face on it perhaps? Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. She cited instances of abuse and alcoholism. Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. Lets hope they find some peace. One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the haunting cell phone and social-media clues the girls left behind. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. If any of you want to sift through there and find some interesting stuff and post it here, please feel free to go for it. He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! youre smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Neither one can possibly be BG. The document, obtained by "Murder Sheet Podcast," was provided to NewsNation affiliate WXIN on Tuesday. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but whats the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? DELPHI, Ind. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. This may extend to age 15. Who is Skip that you think "he is traveling to Delphi to answer questions, sort fact from fiction and definitively disprove the countless false claims and bad information that has spread about this case"?? (WNDU) - It's been nearly five years since Abby Williams and Libby German went missing in Delphi, only to be found murdered the next day. Most of them are from the other sub. Dont listen to those idiots on Reddit! Ron Logan: Enough already. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. Its not free though. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN, Press J to jump to the feed. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. It is on the girls cellphones, but if you listen to it, you will just hear a bunch of unintelligible garble. I'll be happy to represent Nic and the Captain if it happens. He's done that on this post too, wonder if he'll be banned from here as well. They are within the video. The rejoinders also say that either he never lost his keys or he did and he called the wife to bring a spare, and she did, evidence being the police scanner. The next day, News 8 broke the story connecting Kegan Kline to the account. Oh theyre not made by him. Great job guys presenting this case so well. The crime scene photos have been widely trashed as paraedolia. Ive followed your articles over the past four years and find your insight quite interesting! In fact, the rumor is that LE simply does not have enough evidence against Mr. X to take the case to court. At 8:20 PM, the police scanner said that A., Mr. Xs wife, was coming to bring Mr. X a spare set of keys. So many armchair-detective, keyboard warriors who want to insert themselves into something they know nothing about; if they had any sense, they would realize that he is traveling to Delphi to answer questions, sort fact from fiction and definitively disprove the countless false claims and bad information that has spread about this case. I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? Of course she did. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume hes cleared. Id rather not look into the NHI* (no humans involved) cases in the ghetto where one group of scumbags shoots up some other group of scumbags. Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. I doubt it. By that I mean that he probably has offended many times but being transient affords one the luxury of not getting caught. Read free previews and reviews from booklovers. The next day, their bodies were found nearby. WRITTEN IN CAPS, APOLOGIES, BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THIS. The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. Incidentally, we now have a retired homicide detective working as part of our team. 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